A healer and psychic surgeon working in Baguio is Plácido Palitayan. He is an extremely confident and skilled psychic surgeon. It was again a privilege to meet him, interview him, make videos and work with him. I have a full video interview with Plácido, and this is the transcript after some healing sessions where Plácido operated on three people (including me):

Howard: Can you tell me more about the healing and psychic surgery you just performed that we just videotaped?

Placido: I am not a doctor, so it is difficult to give a medical description or explanation. In the healing process, when I heal, I heal myself with my whole being, my mind, my heart and my soul is praying for God to help you.

The mystery here is power, or energy, or what we call god. Our bodies are complex and often have problems caused by emotions. Everybody has that; no one is perfect in health. But our mind in connection (points up) with him, is working miracles, moment by moment in our life.

Howard: When you start your healing like I just saw, you say your prayers and you meditate, and this external power comes into you and then you start to make the openings in the person’s body. Is this how you see this?

Placido: Yes, it is something like that. I am doing the healing, I am not thinking about myself or anything. I only serve, for the divine power to work through me, the patient only has to relax and open their mind, without thinking about any problem, for the divine energy to work through the entire body system.

Howard: I understand. This is consistent with what I have heard from other psychic surgeons.

Placido: This is how healing works.

Howard: I felt very relaxed with you, very open, and now I feel much better, much clearer.

Placido: I know.

Howard: I would like to ask you a few questions. As we have discussed, I bring groups of Westerners to the Philippines and they would like to know more about the healer, his background, etc. So can you tell me how your healing work started?

Plácido: I think it is a divine plan, and beyond my knowledge. I was very young when I broke my fingers. It was after my studies at school and I was with my friends. I had to leave my friends because it was twilight time as I couldn’t see the way home in the dark. The place I used to go was downhill, and I ran home when it got dark, fell and fell, and hit my finger against a big rock. My fingers went all the way back (it shows). In my mind, as I was very young, only nine, I had thought that he had destroyed my hand. I only had one thing to do and that was pray. It was not what I had learned in church or what others had taught me. I prayed very deeply in my soul, a very short prayer, I can’t remember what I said even now, but it was from my soul. Suddenly, after my prayer, I rubbed my hand, shook it, and it was perfectly restored.

I went home, I couldn’t, I couldn’t speak, and I was so in awe of what had happened. I didn’t think God would. The next day, when I went to school, the teacher asked me “Plácido, will you answer the question?” He could hear her, but he couldn’t speak. Maybe he was in what they call a trance. A trance from which no one knew where it came from. The teacher approached me and slowly waved her hands a few inches from my face. He knew she was doing this, but still couldn’t answer. Only when he touched me, was I able to answer “yes ma’am”, only then did I realize it.

From then on, I couldn’t go to school anymore, as they said I was crazy! So after that I went to the mountains alone. In the mountains there is no one, only sugar cane. So all he was doing was drinking the sugar cane and just thinking. He knew he must be crazy; I said to myself “what am I doing here, I only eat sugar cane”. He couldn’t even urinate because he had drunk too much sugar from the sugar cane. I knew then that I had to drink, otherwise it would destroy my health. And that was the beginning of what you now call “spiritual awareness.” So after that, whenever I saw people, I could tell if they were sick, sick, or unhappy. I also found that I could talk to them in ways that reassured them or made them feel happy. They told me “you are not crazy, because you know how to respond to our problems.” I said I didn’t know how, but being young and with nothing to lose, I said just what I saw and they started to believe me.

When the Missionaries came and spoke about God, I was magnetized by their words and approached them. I asked them if I could go with them, and when they visited other communities, I touched the people and they improved. I realized that what the Bible said about healing was happening to me. Later, the missionaries got jealous of me, like when I talked to people they liked and they met with me and not the missionaries.

The missionaries did not want me to be with them, and I was left alone again, I felt that no one liked me. I had to work anyway, since here in the Philippines you have to do it to be able to eat. My job was very hard, digging, breaking rocks, hard work like that. It’s a long story, but then came the great psychic healer Eleuterio Terte (he was the first psychic surgeon), then Tony Agpoa, Ricardo Gonzales, and everyone wanted me to work with them. Said I couldn’t divide myself into three. I decided to work with Gonzales anyway (he made a better offer!). He was still very young and didn’t speak English yet. I traveled with Gonzales to Australia in August 1958. After that I was able to complete my education,

Howard: Can I ask you how old are you?

Placido: 65

Howard: Hearing his story, it is obvious that his healing has developed over the years and he does his job with great confidence. Did you start with ‘magnetic’ and psychic healing?

Plácido: At the beginning of my studies with Gonzales, I went to a tribal community of headhunters. One of them had a big tumor, and I started to manipulate (magnetic massage) the area, and suddenly the body opened up and the blood spurted out. He did not know why or how this had happened, as he was only manipulating the body. Then I looked behind me, and the Chief had raised his arm and holding a big bone, he wanted to kill me. He must have thought that when the blood came out, I had stabbed the patient. The Chief wanted to cut off my head (they’re headhunters!), But the bone snapped in half and his arm couldn’t move. Then he saw that there was no more blood and that the wound had healed. The patient was starting to get up and was laughing too. The Chief smiled and said that I should stay here, be with his family. I said “no thanks, I don’t belong here, I belong to all the people who need my help.”

Howard: Well at least you made good friends there. As they say, it’s nice to have a friendly relationship with scouts!

Plácido: Yes, he wanted to kill me, and then he became my close friend. After that I came to Baguio and joined the healers. I did not do any psychic surgery as I thought this had happened to me only once. In Baguio, I met with Tony Agpoa who was working with hundreds of people. He said “Placido, I’m so tired, it’s already 5 in the afternoon and I still have a lot of people to heal! I said I’m going to help, and in 30 minutes I helped all the people with the psychic surgery. be prepared, and I just did. I was very surprised, “how did you do it?” he asked, “all those people in such a short time.”

There are many stories to tell, but all I want is peace. I give spiritual advice, I do not talk about religion, since for me religion is the work of man, ‘He’ (pointing upwards) in his work is the most important thing for me. I need to train my son to do this job and help me.

Howard: Hearing what you’ve been saying, it really seems like the most important thing is this ‘feeling’, when you were a kid you didn’t think about what was happening, but you had a feeling. Well, I really want to thank you for your time, and I appreciate you sharing your story and adventures with us, thank you very much for that.